I never doubted that Ha Sun was capable of being a true king, but seeing him come into his own strength and take on his enemies himself, outsmart them, and return the nation to peace was extremely satisfying. Decent show, awesome costumes and props. As is so aptly stated in NIRVANA IN FIRE, Time flows like water, and what has gone cannot come again. Give it a rest, Pakalana. Hello? 5. Nothing was making sense anymore. He had no backstory. And even I would be interested, and was interested, in seeing what this story looks like. I am relatively new to historical dramas but I am enjoying them. I'm glad I tuned in. It was one of my most fun and blissful experiences here at DB. Why? The end was quite disapointing, I mean the jump in the future was useless. Im glad it was 16 episodes. The Crowned Clown Season 1 2019 16+ A low-class commoner clown, sits in the throne of the King who is in peril of losing his country. So-woon says that now he understands the weight of the crown and can move forward, but that he can come to her when he needs a break, and shell always be there for him. Thats is why the drama is "Crowned clown" or "the man who became king" . At times he made me forget that it was fiction. *(Out of Character: not a logical decision for the character to make based on how they have acted previously). Ta-da! Bonus points if it's a sageuk. And i also think the doppelganger part is seemingly only the possible way to a mere clown to become a king. Also, what a complete waste of what I could have accepted as an okay last 10-15 minutes, or even, heck, half an hour if they'd just used their common sense while writing the damn thing. Didnt want it to end. The ending. I don't know what came over me that I felt so compelled to embark on JUMONG and KINGDOM OF THE WINDS around the start of the year. They had more than a few epic interludes. DEFINITELY MLDBC!! Y U GOTTA KILL OFFICER JANG?! It would have been interesting to see him evolving and becoming paranoid. On the other hand, last week I finished reading the existing 106 chapters of the translation of NIRVANA IN FIRE, and am looking forward to commencing that watch when I'm current with HAECHI. Lord Giseong is crowned king, and Ha Sun dresses in common clothing as he packs to leave the palace. For sure an emotional roller coaster ride. His weaknesses. Thank you and I very much understand your pain, rage, disappointment, every other similar emotion you may be feeling. As for the cast, so many lovely talents and wonderful performances (my favorites being Jang Gwang, Jang Young-nam, and Kim Sang-kyung because I'm biased). Thank you, fellow Beanies, for your thoughtful and thought-provoking comments. He explains that he doesnt wish to give the throne to a child of his blood, so hes been watching the officials for a suitable successor, and he thinks Lord Giseong is the best choice. ;-). Even once a few people found out about Ha Seons identity, they for the most part just went on treating him like he was the real king all along, like Yi Heon didnt exist. I liked the acting, the cinematography, the music themes, the multilayered characters. What a lovely ending. Ha Sun says shakily that its not a dream, but that hes walked endlessly in a dream to find her. And it was filled with MLSHR comments!) The prince appear for less than a whole minute, says a couple of pretty obvious statements and I'm supposed to believe he's meant to rule? But the Clown woke him up and he realized he could do good for korean people. What is the limit between good and bad? Minister Shin orders his men after him, but the instant Ha Sun is through the gate it slams shut, cutting him off from his soldiers. She asks the little girl where she learned to make a wish like that, and the girl says a man who was passing by taught her. This shows single and greatest flaw, therefore, is ignoring the consequences of the King as a pre-existing character as determined by the premise of the show itself. Shes decided to leave the gibang, and she tells Ho-geol that she intends to travel and just enjoy life for a while. I suspect that having to contend with another court full of braying ministers was a bit too daunting. I enjoyed this more than most of the sageuks I've seen. My take on the ending was that he was nursed back to health though we dont know how and who took care of him. However, the clown is a dual symbol. Fictional or not, no sageuk has ever dare to change the royal line of Joseon. Btw, it's wonderful to see you back on the comment section <3. @lovepark, I agree with you, especially with regard to: it was a bold move for the show to have Lee Kyu kill the king in secret and become the "king" from the shadows. And some shows just seem to have an initial hump that I have to get over before they draw me in but then from there on out it's smooth sailing. 4 Recommended by Shawarma Thanks for noting that Yoon Park portrayed Ha Sun's successor, Lord Giseong. there could have been a slight nod to MASQUERADE by perhaps having Ha-seon and So-woon leaving on a vessel pulling from shore with maybe Moo-young on shore making a bow; 1/4 Prolly will make the beeeest drama with 0 plotholes and AMAZING storyline. I felt so angry that the ending felt like some type of trap for me. The acting was superb, the scenery was beautiful and the story was different from its source material. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, version : 'v2.2' // use version 2.2 Rather than be daring, some parts felt more sensational than meaningful. They tell the story of a king who was as handsome as he was wise, and whose greatest talent was looking out for his people. The first scene in this episode sets the tone. This is a critique of the show alone. Anyway, this was my first sageuk and I'm really glad I watched it. The entire thing? I also accepted, that the king had to be eliminated for the greater good. This was my first YJG drama and it is hard to believe he is only 21 years old. Do not base it on a doppelganger trope, only to IGNORE the implications and potential and importance of that doppelganger trope. The Queen- The Clown saved the Queen, thus the Queen forgave him, and then also abandoned the King as a pre existing character. The Crown Season 5: Ending Explained | Full Spoiler Review & The Real Life True Story That Could Inspire Season 6. Kudos to the entire production team. However instead of this being a huge and important plot point, and an opportunity for properly developed conflict and climax, this is practically swept under the rug. One of these days I intend to watch SHIN DON, which may overlap with JEONG DO JEON. But that's not what Sicarius' point is. It was pretty good Korean Soap Opera but so much tragedy and I did want Haskan to have survived for his happy ending but not to be. Tags: Lee Se-young, The Crowned Clown, Yeo Jin-gu, Your email address will not be published. (Cant remember if I read all of your wall before you broke DB, but still *nods*. To me this drama was about Haksan and his quest to get the Dadong tax law passed. He didn't even try to run. My mind has a mind of its own, and it's like herding cats. Too forced. The cast and crew can be proud of their production; Why did you bother to watch it if you thought it was so bad? But for the ending, thats a 4/10 for me. Perhaps because of unavoidable comparison, CROWNED CLOWN has come up a bit short. But if its boring, nvm. Why not let him save Ha Seon and then serve him for those two magic years? I doubt the ministers were this stupid not to reveal something that they know to be true. Yeah, I was all set to accept this final episode as whatever, its over and forget about it. I also do not agree with the author of the recap -- that protecting the power of the king is protecting the people. And do not had any problem wit it. Very sad but thoroughly enjoyed the series. But then they killed Moo Young for no reason and it made me so inexplicably angry that I cant seem to move on. In order to escape those who plan to assassinate him, the King puts a clown, who looks exactly like him, on the throne. Ugh! I'm probably in the minority for this opinion, but I thought it was a bold move for the show to have Lee Kyu kill the king in secret and become the "king" from the shadows. Under entirely different circumstances, namely had I liked this show for more than just the first 8 episodes, this final write up would mostly consist of how utterly ridiculous and pointless that fake out death and time jump was; it is stupid for even the flawed story they ended up telling. I thought I would have gotten caught up by now, but have held off until CROWNED CLOWN cleared the decks. Please tell me I'm not the only one who viewed the ending as an open-ended one! General Kang asks whether he should bring his men to the capital or prepare to fight at the border. I said this in episode 8, and I will say it again. Unnecessary death of the officer. Though the family seems fine, their pet dog, Sadie, refuses to enter the home and continues barking frantically. (Oh, right. I don't hate it, just think that the ending could have been better executed. I wanted to see some little clowns running around. Both Moo-young and Eunuch Jo advise Ha Sun to have him come to the capital to protect him, but Ha Sun says that people will be killed if Aisin Gurun attacks. Would have been nice if Officer Jang could have had a chance at a normal life. A character as significant and prominent as the King, doesnt even have to be on screen for anything that happens to him to be very important to how your plot plays out if you want your plot to make sense. I was expecting more repercussions and a deeper analysis into these morally grey characters, but their actions, especially the murder of Yi Heon, were brushed over in simple strokes, diminishing the weight and impact of these moments. So it was @sicarius who broke it. Where did he get money to travel around? It's songs were crappy, but the instrumentals hold their ground against even Dae Jang-geum and Arang and the Magistrate instrumentals. Minister Lee. On the latest episode of the tvN drama "The Crowned Clown", the fight for authority over Joseon continued, but not without a little romance thrown in between the battles.. Ha Seon (Yeo Jin-goo) promised Yoo So-woon (Lee Se-young) forever love asked asked her to see the flowers in spring, the ocean in the summer, and harvest in the fall.Ha Seon explained the meaning of the tree of love and put . Here is hoping that they'll space out the upcoming sageuks. So-woon had sobbed that if Ha Suns body wasnt there, he must be alive somewhere. Why did he leave the palace without guards? I also hated that the poor mom who had his son killed by the previous king had no retribution at all. Or give me a modern hospital with IV's and other life support for people who spend two years in a coma. Because whoever Yi Heon was, according to the makers of this show, no longer matters. I was confused too about why the queen dowager spoke to Ha Sun as the king. The Crowned Clown had so much potential, but most of it was gone by the second half of the drama. I stopped watching at episode 10 since I had time-constraints and felt that the pace was a little slow or maybe just that I lacked time. He stands before Minister Lees casket one last time, remembering his friend saying that he taught him about the importance of trust and bowing to him as his king. And the King only died because the King was a plot device and the King was only a plot device because this show, and its writers, are frakking stupid.~) In my view, the story went downhill after Yi Heons death because almost nothing that was set up before then had any serious consequences. It kept me Interested. In the courtyard, she never loses her hostile pride as she drinks the poison and succumbs to its effects. The ending failed. She decides to let Ha Sun pay tribute to Minister Lee, so he allows Minister Shin and Prince Jin-pyung to leave the palace. I was perfectly okay with the ending. In Episode 8 of "The Crown", we followed the controversial Martin Bashir interview with Diana and how that shook the monarchy. Yes @kiara. This went on for 3 or 4 times, the guard took advantage of it and oneday ordered to kill the disrespectful guard who is laughing at him (but actually the real king dressed in guard clothing ). I only read the first two parts at least thats what was there when i started reading it. The writing, on the other hand, definitely the weakest link. I'm interested to see what's up his sleeve in his forthcoming drama. Could have had someone stab Officer Jang and as they're about to finish him he picks up a sword and kills the man, then the man with the arrow could have shot him, then Jang could have killed the man and collapsed, leading us to think that both he and Jang are dead. Meanwhile, MLSHR had ALL the potential to be THE Sageuk of the decade, but it tanked, epically. Yeahthere should be a flash back. Better late than never is the best I can do these days. His dignified presence was a centering, moderating influence for both monarchs, and elevated every scene in which he appeared. The palace is thrown into turmoil and at the center of this chaos is our clown King, Ha Sun. There was so much dormant potential with this turn of events, yet this treasonous act wasn't delved into further which is a shame. My thoughts are the queen died of a broken heart when she learned the king was dead. But thank goodness after 2 long and nobody changing years, the Clown has miraculously woken from coma. He looked excellent. She stops when she hears a little girl making a wish to the goblin that protects the house as she holds a cracked hazelnut. Its a matter of preference. Episode 1 King Seonjo dies, and his fears about the fate of his youngest son Prince Yul come true when his successor Yi Heon (Gwanghae-gun) orders Prince Yul's arrest for treason. Like everyone else I feel the end was rushed and not thought out. Our royal guard MooYoung is laughing in heaven at these horrible freshmen of hell. He pauses in the courtyard for just a moment, then steps off the brick path and walks away, a relaxed smile on his face for the first time in years. Yi Heon and his contradictions with Ha Sun was truly the only reason why I was intrigued by TCC in the first place. Hope his next drama also does well. I have not seen the movie. Cingu, I promise to read your essay but right now I gotta get away from the Cray Cray for a few hours and take a nap or something. 9 is following him into the sageuk? He says that she hasnt been officially deposed yet, so shes still of higher status than the king, and can order him to dethrone the traitor clown. Like I said, it's a fairly good and fairly solid Sageuk, preserving at least the "vibe" you expect from a Sageuk. I sure hope Lord Giseong was also PRINCE Giseong, because there would have been quite a commotion if Ha Sun had passed the crown outside the royal family. To me they always make for a cliched and boring ending. I mentioned earlier that it would have given Yeo Jin-goo the possibility to play triple roles; and If you want to tell a story about a Clown being King, do NOT make that ENTIRE premise hinge on a single character and then treat him as a plot device! I could have accepted that, though, because Ha Seon only wanted the power to protect the people he loved, and his sister and the ahjae were safe, so he succeeded and then felt it would be better to hand over the throne to someone more suitable. I agree with you that I would have liked to seen Yi Heon's back story pre crazy King and addiction. Connect with Facebook My second bean for 2019 . Ever since she promised to protect the clown, everyone keep serving her chopped onions. But of course everyone can have its own opinion. He had no backstory. The writers could have done better making recovery time shorter, say 3-6 months. }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); Please enter your username or email address. I could only assume that Moo-young's sparring sessions with His Majesty paid off as the latter skewered Lord Shin. Minister Shin says hes already rewarded them to offset the drop in morale, and he asks if she still thinks they need a valid cause for rebellion. Im not usually a fan of vampire shows, but now I want that alternative ending/sequel. all had loyal supporters! The character had reached the point of no return and the "goings-comings" between the Palace and the outside would have been boring. Other than that, I loved this drama and I'm sorry it over. @kurama, The uncanny, period-inappropriate costumes, hairstyles, makeup and actors turned me off right at the VERY beginning of the drama. Add it to the list of things that are harder to believe than time travel and zombies Yoo In-Na's cuteness in Touch Your Heart. And your flimsy attempts at trying to justify this by saying that Ha Seon was better than Yi Heon and would never succumb to what Yi Heon did, mean nothing if you refuse to develop Yi Heon as a character! So-woon tells him that hes done enough, and that she supports his decision. The only reason I watched the drama version was because of the movie. Or well he did but not the important ones. Working myself into a lather wasn't good for me. You dont get a medic so learn your own first-aid. Auwe! Once again sweeping this fact under the rug. It helps to know that I am not the only one who struggled live watching two sageuks at the same time. It made me think that the PD doesn't have enough control over one of the most important departments of a Sageuk, which is Wardrobe and aesthetics department. In sageuks, the best character will always be the one with a twisted past, the one that isn't entirely black or white but has extremely strong values in something, and will do anything to protect those values (i.e. Drat! Here, I'm justwhat is even there to say? She had nothing to lose and maybe something to gain by ratting him out. And . And the drama did well as well. Because, when making a sad ending, you have to make it believable enough so that the viewer does not feel like theyre being unnecessarily hurt. But from what I gather, they didn't. How did he recover from 3 arrows??? The story takes place in Joseon period, when power struggles surrounding the throne had reached extreme levels. What right do they have to the throne? Then, both Jang and the King could have remained somewhere and tended to their wounds. It really speaks out my mind almost perfectly why I did not really enjoy watching this drama, especially after Yi Heon's death. The King, all his loves, fears, weaknesses and strengths, his idiosyncrasies, his handwriting, his tone of voice, he as a person, already has to exist before the Clown can pretend to be him. This feels like irony in my perspective, since between episode 6 to 8, she says that it does not matter if Ha Sun is late or not, he will always be there. Me, too. There are of course all the issues with adultery and what shouldve been her reaction given the historical context and even arguments about who was the better husband for her, but none of that is really that important or relevant because on a basic writing level, her character, after trying to commit suicide promptly forgot, or acted like the King as a character never existed and was never important. (I did watch it, and I was right.). I hate sounding petty, but, uh, what? It's not that King Loves is terrible, but if you put MLDBC, MLSHR and KL on a scale, KL veers more towards the extreme that is occupied by MLSHR, instead of the MLDBC extreme. Please enter your username or email address. Eunuch Jo brings Ha Sun a scroll, and he reads the hanja himself as he announces that for the queen dowagers crimes of harming the queen, ordering Lord Yoos assassination, and leading the rebel forces, she is officially deposed and ordered to drink poison. The Crowned Clown (2019) - Recommendations - MyDramaList The Crowned Clown (2019) Details Episode Guide Cast & Crew Reviews Recommendations Photos Edit this Page Make a Recommendation 8.8 The Red Sleeve (2021) Lee Se Young is the main Female Lead in both dramas Somewhat similar vibes but are pretty different plot-wise. I will remember his Eunuch Jo for a long time. or And the music is perfection. He believes that nobody should sit on the throne who wants to use it for personal gain, and that he wants to step down because he wants to go back to being one of the people. It did its intended purpose. Early on there were comments about the disclaimer at the beginning of each episode of TCC. Predictable and flat waiting period for the queen. The ending of The Crown season 5 centers on Queen Elizabeth II's (Imelda Staunton) dramatic feelings of obsolescence while Prince Charles (Dominic West) fruitlessly campaigns for greater stature as the future King and the tragic fate of Princess Diana (Elizabeth Debicki) hangs in the air. I'm not even thinking that this drama is even close to reality lol. So after the preliminary introductions, they used Yi Heon as a plot device, to get the Clown into the Kings position and then they abandoned the King. I love the show, but they have to redo the ending!!! I have no qualms about it. 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