Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . Overall, I have to say that I am troubled by the way you appear to be perceiving and interacting with the recruiters. I plan on waiting the 6 months. If you lie about it at MEPS, and get Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. A recent post made me think of these questions. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. See Article 83 UCMJ. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. I swear I was born in the wrong generation. MEPS threaten to put these kids in fucking prison if they lie, and they lie anyway. If it had been correctly disclosed, he likely would have required a waiver and additional counseling before joining the Air Force. We are going to have to start policing this, because it's becoming too common. Forgetting the medical side of this for a moment You must log in or register to reply here. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. Adhd is no big deal, however if it's serious I would lie. He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. That's what the exam is for, to make sure you're fit for duty. JavaScript is disabled. Hello, thank you everyone for this forum, it has been incredibly helpful. The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. (Navy). You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. Because he felt that his condition was very mild, and that it was part of his cousin's support program, he did not disclose this to his Recruiter, nor MEPS. 48.8K. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. He told me not to worry about it and say "no". For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. Good luck to you. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. What should I do if MEPS continues to request medical records that don't exist? I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. Having inconsistencies on your forms vs verbal answers is usually a major issue and will make it very difficult for you to get into the Marines now. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. Delayed my ROTC scholarship for a semester, biggest pain in the ass. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. You need to disclose it. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if its a no go or not . The young man did see another counselor in the same clinic, who identified several other stressors in his life, including moving away from home to begin college, worries about the cost of college, and a strong fear of public speaking. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool+bag&defid=1959463. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. This isn't the place, and you aren't the expert. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. Thank you for the quick replies. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. He hadn't told them he had lasik. Generally speaking, no. I'm guessing you're done. If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. Processing Stations (MEPS) Your visit to a Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) determines your mental aptitude, as well as physical and moral qualifications for enlistment in the Army. He said that there is a good chance that I could lose my op 40. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. You will never become a United States Marine. It may not display this or other websites correctly. May 14, 2016 Just a note, if you decide to lie about it, you need to be sure that you won't let it slip sometime later. Now I've been referred to behavioral health for depression. (if I do that then I would have to get all medical records I gave to them). He was counseled, evaluated, and treated for EIA. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. I have changed a few details to maintain anonymity, however the basics of the stories are very real and did happen. Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I dont really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related Im just a bad test taker. Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. You are using an out of date browser. Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. The recruiter will come up with the necessary "details" of what happened and will move on to the next recruit. You should have had a post-op visit to measure refractions at 90 days post-op and then another 30 days after that visit.https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Should I just wait for him to contact me? Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! This is my reaction as I am. First, psychiatrists, psychologists, and sometimes doctors might not directly tell their patients their actual diagnoses because of the stigma and fear surrounding Mental Health. Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. I told him "no" because I did disclose everything with him if asked. Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. JavaScript is disabled. We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. How do you think they would perform in a deployment, or at a remote assignment like Turkey or Greenland, or if they married and their future spouse later divorced them? My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. You're still not getting it. 48.3k Members 151 Online Created Sep 13, 2012 Join Top posts december 6th 2015 Top posts of december, 2015 Top posts 2015 I didn't mention it at the physical, everything when fine. Its like a doctor told my dad he was going to need immediate knee surgery. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. It will regenerate itself in about three to five days. She joined the army and just before graduating AIT she decided the Army wasn't for her (I told her not to do it, but did she listen? However, you do sign a paper that allows the navy to look through your medical history if something bad happens during training. This is a process a person goes through after they have gone through the medical screening to join the army. The lesson is that we need to make it impossible for people to lie. For more information, please see our Just something to think of. Press J to jump to the feed. What Is The Biggest Lie You Ever Heard, Told Or Someone Told You? Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. MEPS, Eye Exam, and Lasik It is against the APC Forum Rules to advocate any labor action which is not authorized by the RLA/NMB. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. Through the medical side of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, treated! 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